Joy Reid Homophobic Blogposts

Joy Reid Homophobic Blogposts

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Overview

Joy Reid Homophobic Blogposts refers to the ongoing controversy regarding a series of homophobic remarks allegedly made by MSNBC host Joy Reid about a Florida politician. After the posts resurfaced, Reid denied having made the comments and claimed that her blog archives had been manipulated.

Background

On November 30th, 2017, Twitter [1] user @Jamie_Maz posted a series of tweets showing screencaptures of MSNBC host Joy Reid's former blog "The Reid Report." In the posts, @Jamie_Maz claims that Reid made made homopohic posts about Florida politican Charlie Crist, accusing him of being a closeted homosexual. The first post (shown below, left) says, "1/x From 2007 to 2009 @joyannreid authored a dozen homophobic posts not only attempting to out Charlie Crist as gay, she attacked & mocked him for being so. She repeatedly referred to him as 'Miss Charlie' and tagged posts about him under 'gay politicians.' (thread)" Within six months, the post received more than 1,700 retweets and 2,500 likes.

Over the course of 10 tweets (shown below), @Jamie_Maz writes that Reid "mockingly" called Crist "Miss Charlie," joked about how "he didn't want to see his wife naked" and used the tags "not gay politicians."


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From The Hl National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Comyn (Texas) on 913 tl 249462 Not a bot @Jamie_Maz 3/x She makes a joke about John McCain "tapping" Crist, says Crist spent his honeymoon ogling male waiters and thinking about how he didn't want to see his wife naked, and mocked Crist's big gay wedding The Flarida governor didn't gct tapped by John McCain (get your mind out of the guttorl I happened to b taping a TV interviaw today with someone "in the know" (and n the Florida Gap.) and this person, whom I won't name, told me that s well known that Crist and his new bride will not even live together. Sure, there's the governor's mansion in Talahassee, but he's hardly there He's got condo of his own, and she lives on wanky Fisher Island (her kids he mstv with ther rather in New York.) So the marriage might be, shall we say, of the John and Cindy McCain variety heavy on the pobential political bankrol, light on the naokic. I can just see poor Charic on ths Hm. Costumes. How fitting. And there were protesters, tool Gar oes even Plus a press conference after edding without a with ฐ big handlebar mustache in attendane Thanks, Gerldo But what's most inter supposed Fourth Estate, the they knaw thay knaw about Crist's sa faith in democracy, doesn't it? okay wedding video time 4:41 PM-30 Nov 2017 Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 4/x Joy mocks Crist as Will from Will and Grace, says he is faking a marriage to a woman to run for VP Friday, July 04, 2008 Early, late notes: Crist finds his 'Grace,' Obama unplugged, and a Williams Wimble TIree quick things before I go to sleep: What woukdn't Charlie Crist do to become John McCain's 95 t 188 342 a Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 5/x Joy says Crist would decorate the White House with flamingo-shaped napkins making it gayer than George Takei Slly Mark, of COLIR5E he would Wihna Houza, Mi nw-. McCain's lust Senator. 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Charla Crist is baing sought aut for all KINDS of good stufi The latest: the GOP is starve or talent in the wake nfth. 1eb Rush withdrawal, some in the party are wooing Miss Charlie to run for Sideshow Mel's soon-to-be vacated Senate seat. From The H National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Conyn (Texas) on 97t 166 287 Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 9/x More garbage from Joy nentiun that Miss Cherlie ?And ow pouted by ad 913 t 134275 Not a bot Jamie Maz 30 Nov 2017 Here is the link to the archive of Joy's blog. Scroll about halfway down to start seeing the articles cited in the thread. web.archive.org/web/2013070803

Developments

Joy Reid's Response

On December 3rd, 2017, Variety[2] published a statement from Reid about the controversy. In the statement, Reid apologizes for the posts, which she called, "Insensitive, Tone Deaf and Dumb." She wrote:

"As someone who is not a member of the LGBT community, I regret the way I addressed the complex issue of the closet and speculation on a person’s sexual orientation with a mocking tone and sarcasm. It was insensitive, tone deaf and dumb. There is no excusing it – not based on the taste-skewing mores of talk radio or the then-blogosphere, and not based on my intentions."
"This note is my apology to all who are disappointed by the content of blogs I wrote a decade ago, for which my choice of words and tone have legitimately been criticized.

As a writer, I pride myself on a facility with language -- an economy of words or at least some wisdom in the selection. However, that clearly has not always been the case.

In 2007 I was a morning talk radio host and blogger, writing about Florida politics (a blog I maintained until 2011.) Among the frequent subjects of my posts was then-governor Charlie Crist, at the time a conservative Republican, whose positions on issues like gay marriage and adoption by same-sex couples in Florida shared headlines with widely rumored reports that he was hiding his sexual orientation. Those reports were the subject of lots of scrutiny: by LGBTQ bloggers, writers and journalists, conservative blogs, a controversial documentary film called “Outrage,” and even by the comedic writers at South Park. But it was my own attempt at challenging Crist on my blog that has now raised the issue of not just my choice of words, but what was and is in my heart.

Let me be clear: at no time have I intentionally sought to demean or harm the LGBT community, which includes people whom I deeply love. My goal, in my ham-handed way, was to call out potential hypocrisy.

Nonetheless, as someone who is not a member of the LGBT community, I regret the way I addressed the complex issue of the closet and speculation on a person’s sexual orientation with a mocking tone and sarcasm. It was insensitive, tone deaf and dumb. There is no excusing it – not based on the taste-skewing mores of talk radio or the then-blogosphere, and not based on my intentions.

In addition to friends and coworkers and viewers, I deeply apologize to Congressman Crist, who was the target of my thoughtlessness. My critique of anti-LGBT positions he once held but has since abandoned was legitimate in my view. My means of critiquing were not.

In the years since I went from blogger to opinion journalist, I have also learned, through brilliant friends and allies in the LGBT activist community, how to better frame my critiques of those who challenge people’s right to love who they want, marry them, and walk in the world as fully free people.

Re-reading those old blog posts, I am disappointed in myself. I apologize to those who also are disappointed in me. Life can be humbling. It often is. But I hope that you know where my heart is, and that I will always strive to use my words for good. I know better and I will do better.

Allegations of Hacking

On April 23rd, 2018, Mediaite[5] posted a different series of posts allegedly made by Reid. The second batch of posts, they write, defend homophobia, gay jokes and mocking homosexuals. Additionally, she mocks Some of these posts (examples below) state:

"most straight people cringe at the sight of two men kissing"[6]

"Broke Back Mountain. (I admit that I couldn’t go see the movie either, despite my sister’s ringing endorsement.)"[7]

"Does that make me homophobic? Probably."[8]


That's a good argument, but I would throw in one caveat. Morality is a highly personal idea. What I might consider immoral, you might consider to be perfectly acceptable. It all depends on myriad factors, like upbringing, religious inculcation, etc. So it is possible for someone like Pace to have the personal opinion that homosexuality is immoral, without there being some larger imperative that he explain why it is so. On the question of how that morality is defined, for the religious person, it could be as simple as, "because the Bible proscribes against it." That may not wash with everyone, but it really doesn't have to Perhaps some people use the world "immoral" when they really mean "distasteful" - I think a lot of heterosexuals, especially men, find the idea of homosexual sex to be... well gross, and so they lump it in with immorality. And I think many religious people classity gay sex as immoral because in their view, it lures healthy males away from the procreative life. And then there are the concerns that adult gay men tend to be attracted to very young, post-pubescent types, bringing them "into the lifestyle" in a way that many people consider to be immoral. (Ditto with gay rights groups that seek to organize ve teens who may have an inclination that they are gay...) und, impressionable That's the best I can do in answering the columnist's challenge. As for Pace, I think he's entitled to his opinion, and his statement regretting that he aired his personal views should suffice Tim Hardaway is a homophobe (and so are you) HEAT 10 Writing about the exchange he instigated with Hardaway (one of only a handful of NBA stars who ignored their publicists' advice and answered questions about Amaeichi's coming out in a new book, "Man in the Middle," Lebatard describes the comments as hurtful and homophobic, but "honest." They were also stupid for a public figure. But and this is the big "but..." Keeping it real most straight men feel exactly the same way, and would have the exact same reaction to the idea of stripping naked in a sweaty locker room in close quarters with a gay teammate. Most straight people cringe at the sight of two men kissing. Most straight people cringed at the Snickers commercial. Most straight people had a hard time being convinced to watch Broke Back Mountain." (I admit that I couldn't go see the movie either, despite my sister's ringing endorsement, because I didn't want to watch the two male characters having sex.) Does that make me homophobic? Probably. And I'm not exactly proud of it. But part of the intrinsic nature of "straightness" is that the idea of homosexual sex is well... gross even if you think that gay people are pertectly lovely individuals. For the record, I'm sure gay people think straight sex is gross, too, it's just that the nature of political correctness is that gay people are allowed to say straight sex is gross, but the reverse is considered to be patently homophobic. The gay and lesbian community i$ facing its Elian moment. By screaming so loudly about Warren's inclusion the naugurator, and making gay marriage a kind of litmus test for true progressiveness and humanity, they have embraced a fight that only a small sliver of the population can relate to, and put their credibility on the line by painting Barack Obama as an enemy, at a time when most Americans consider him their only hope. don't hold up. Examples: Rick Warren is a fringe preacher not fit to occupy a place of such high honor on January 20th. Really? Warren's breakthough book, דhe purpose Driven Life," which IIMEMaaazne in 2005 called the best-selling paperback in history, has sold something like 56 milion copies since its release in 2002. That's just 10 million fewer readers than Barack Obama had voters, and roughly 2 million fewer people than voted for John McCain. Far from a fringe player, Warren might be the most widely known and best-liked religious figure in the U.S Since Billy Graham. His 22,000 member church boasts a global network of 40,000 other durches, united in advancing an agenda focused not on opposing gay rights, but rather on fighting global poverty AIDS and climate change. Warren may be a lot of things, but "fringe is not one of them. Warren's views on gays are out of the mainstream. Perhaps Rachel Maddow, the inimitable Barney Frank and those at the left-most end of the poitical spectrum wish it were so, but it is not (actually, Frank recognized as much when he criticized San Franciso Mayor Gavin Newsome for pushing the envelope on gay marriage in 2004.) Warren does not support the idea of gay marriage. Neither do a majority of Americans. Neither, by the way, does Barack Obama. Or Hillary Clinton. Or Joe Biden. Or any Democrat who ran for president this year with the exception of Dennis Kucinich. But most Americans do support equal access to such things as healthcare benefits through civil unions or domestic partnerships, a view with which Warren, despite the hype over his i----- comments, concurs, as he stated during his recent, but rarely fully quoted, interivew with Beliefnet

Reid claimed that the these particular posts were fabricated, following an alleged breach of the archives in December 2017. She told Mediate that the posts were made by an "external party" that "manipulated material from my now-defunct blog." She said:

"In December I learned that an unknown, external party accessed and manipulated material from my now-defunct blog, The Reid Report, to include offensive and hateful references that are fabricated and run counter to my personal beliefs and ideology.

"I began working with a cyber-security expert who first identified the unauthorized activity, and we notified federal law enforcement officials of the breach. The manipulated material seems to be part of an effort to taint my character with false information by distorting a blog that ended a decade ago.

"Now that the site has been compromised I can state unequivocally that it does not represent the original entries. I hope that whoever corrupted the site recognizes the pain they have caused, not just to me, but to my family and communities that I care deeply about: LGBTQ, immigrants, people of color and other marginalized groups."

Following Reid's and her lawyer's investigation, the Internet Archive, an not-for-profit online record-keeping database, found no evidence to support the claim.[9]

"This past December, Reid’s lawyers contacted us, asking to have archives of the blog (blog.reidreport.com) taken down, stating that “fraudulent” posts were “inserted into legitimate content” in our archives of the blog. Her attorneys stated that they didn’t know if the alleged insertion happened on the original site or with our archives (the point at which the manipulation is to have occurred, according to Reid, is still unclear to us).

"When we reviewed the archives, we found nothing to indicate tampering or hacking of the Wayback Machine versions. At least some of the examples of allegedly fraudulent posts provided to us had been archived at different dates and by different entities."

However, a cybersecurity expert working with Reid said that he had found evidence of manipulation, specifically the posts in question (statement below), which had been "entered with suspicious formatting and time stamps."[10][11]


Here's the statement of security consultant Jonathan Nichols regarding the claims of blog-hacking by MSNBC's Joy Reid old blog compromised, some of the recently circulated posts were not even on the site at any time, suggesting that these instances may be the result of screenshot manipulation with the intent to tarnish Ms. Reid's character. Oddly there were no responses in the comments section of the entries, despite the inflammatory nature of the posts. If those posts were real, they would have undoubtedly elicited responses from Ms. Reid's base. There was also no contemporaneous verification or memory from Ms. Reid's peers or individuals she reqularly debated online Five months ago, we found evidence Joy Reid's now-defunct blog, The Reid Report, was breached after a review of suspicious activity We discovered that login information used to access the blog was available on the Dark Web and that fraudulent entries -featuring offensive statements - were entered with suspicious formatting and time stamps. The posts included hate speech targeting marginalized communities and Ms. Reid has been explicit in condemning them. As a result we are continuing our own investigation and cooperating with federal law enforcement in their attempt to identify the source of this activity. Some of the posts in question were made while Ms. Reid was on the radio hosting her show. Text and visual styling was inconsistent with her original entries In December, shortly after the review, Ms. Reid's attorney wrote to archive.org and Blogger.com to advise them that the blog had been compromised, and that the pages appearing in the Wayback Machine archive included fraudulent posts The letters detail the evidence that many of the blog posts were made up, including the times posted (times when Ms. Reid hosted her radio show), unusual structure and anomalies within the posts and ghosting around images We also asked Blogger.com for forensic data such as time stamps, IP addresses, and User-Agent data which would help us to learn more about the posts and where the fraudulent poster might be located. Blogger.com told us the data was not available At no time has Ms. Reid claimed that the Wayback Machine was hacked, though early in our investigation, we were made aware of a breach at archive.org which may have correlated with the fraudulent blog posts we observed on their website. We simply wanted to ascertain whether that breach was related to the compromising of Ms. Reid's blog Once our team determined that the two intrusions were unrelated, we merely attempted to have the fraudulent posts removed from archive.org. They refused this request Respectfully Jonathan Nichols Independent Security Consultant Jonathan Nichols is an independent security consultant. He has played a role in predicting, detecting, and mitigating some of the largest hacking campaigns in recent years. As part of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom, Jon spent three years deployed in support of NATO Special Operations. Jon has years of experience in building cyber secunity teams which focus on the humans behind the keyboards and the underlying influences which

Online Reaction

Following the release of the first series of posts, on December 1st, 2017, an anonymous poster on the 4chan [14] board /pol/ that "Joy Reid is one of us (shown below).


File: joy.jpg (85 KB, 685x723) O Joy Reid is one of us Anonymous (ID: Zu8r112/01/17(Fri)16:05:24 No.151662736 James M 1/x From 2007 to 2009 joyannreid authored a dozen homophobic posts not only attempting to out Charlie Crist as gay, she attacked & mocked him for being so. >11x From 2007 to 2009 Joy Reid authored a dozen homophobic posts not only attempting to out Charlie Crist as gay, she attacked & mocked him for being so She repeatedly referred to him as "Miss Charlie" and tagged posts about him under "gay politicians." She repeatedly referred to him as "Miss Charlie" and tagged posts about him under "gay politicians. (thread) https://twitter.com/Jamie_Maz/status/936349041264414721 the report

After the second series of posts were released, many on Twitter discussed the controversy. Twitter[15] user @leahmcelrath tweeted, "Fwiw, I do encourage @JoyAnnReid to reach out and engage with the LGBTQ community and to meet with trans folk in particular. I hope she’ll use this situation as an opportunity to expand her understanding and empathy. But, damn y’all, give people room to grow. We ALL need it." The post (shown below, left) received more than 50 retweets and 500 likes in 24 hours.

Twitter[16] user @0xKruzr tweeted, "Can't help but wonder why @JoyAnnReid can't just say 'hey, I said a lot of ignorant shit on here a number of years ago and it sucked. Sorry about that.'" The tweet (shown below, center) received more than 25 retweets and 225 likes in 24 hours.

Twitter[17] user @haircut_hippie tweeted, "today's Joy Reid story is really reminding me of how common anti-gay/ homophobic/ etc views were among mainstream liberals a very, very short time ago." The post (shown below, right) received more than 160 retweets and 1,000 likes in 24 hours.

On April 24th, Twitter[3] published a Moments page about the conversation around allegedly fabricated posts.


Fwiw, I do encourage @JoyAnnReid to reach out and engage with the LGBTOQ community and to meet with trans folk in particular. I hope she'll use this situation as an opportunity to expand her understanding and empathy. But, damn y'all, give people room to grow. We ALL need it. Can't help but wonder why JoyAnnReid can't just say "hey, I said a lot of ignorant s--- on here a number of years ago and it sucked. Sorry about that." today's Joy Reid story is really reminding me of how common anti-gay/ homophobic/ etc views were among mainstream liberals a very, very short time ago

Media Coverage

Several media outlets covered the controversy, including The New York Times,[4] Mediatie, HuffPost, BuzzFeed [12] Variety, CNN,[13] and more.

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