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WeenieMan3

Feb 10, 2023 at 12:02AM EST

…did that second tweet actually say there’s an “ongoing genocide”

SSmotzer

Feb 10, 2023 at 12:24AM EST in reply to WeenieMan3

Well, in the U.S. we live under a two party system, and the leading presidential candidate for the conservative party has said that when he wins in 2024 he will use emergency power to bypass the other branches of the federal government and all state governments to begin the mass arrests of every doctor, teacher, and advocacy group that supports trans people.

So "ongoing" not exactly, imminent, possibly.

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Mr. Darcy

Feb 10, 2023 at 05:19AM EST in reply to SSmotzer

That still wouldn't be a genocide…

kraas

Feb 10, 2023 at 06:36AM EST in reply to Mr. Darcy

what would it be then.

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go8briel

Feb 10, 2023 at 11:10AM EST in reply to kraas

Genocide means the deliberate killing of members of a nation or ethnicity. Last time I checked, trans wasn't an ethnicity.

WeenieMan3

Feb 10, 2023 at 01:10PM EST in reply to SSmotzer

That is not a genocide, calling it that is misleading, hyperbolic at best, and possibly offensive.

SSmotzer

Feb 10, 2023 at 03:03PM EST in reply to go8briel

Neither are homosexuals, but the Nazis also genocided homosexuals.

SSmotzer

Feb 10, 2023 at 03:04PM EST in reply to WeenieMan3

The destruction of a group of people based on their immutable characteristics or beliefs isn't a genocide?

SSmotzer

Feb 10, 2023 at 03:05PM EST in reply to Mr. Darcy

The destruction of a group of people based on their immutable characteristics or beliefs isn't a genocide?

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go8briel

Feb 10, 2023 at 04:09PM EST in reply to SSmotzer

That wasn't genocide as per the definition. :)

SSmotzer

Feb 10, 2023 at 04:33PM EST in reply to go8briel

Genocide: Violent attacks with the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

Ethnicity: A grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups.

By definition it was a genocide, and what Trump is proposing is also genocide.

go8briel

Feb 10, 2023 at 04:57PM EST in reply to SSmotzer

Regarding ethnicity, Touché.

The part about "mass arrests of every doctor, teacher, and advocacy group that supports trans people" is just misleading though. I'm guessing it's about preventing people from getting HRT or surgeries, which isn't genocide in the slightest. Considering how easy it is for someone to get any of these and permanently ruin their life, (if they regret getting HRT or surgery), that's just a precaution, and a good one at that. Besides, can't you be trans without being on HRT or getting surgery? It won't be prohibited to identify as trans even if they were to be a bit stricter on who could get access to these things.